In this episode, the host, Jesse Fries, discusses the phrase 'right side of history' and its implications. He explores various topics such as revenge, reparations, segregation, and eugenics to highlight the complexity of determining the right side of history. The host emphasizes that societies are not a seamless line of progression and that mistakes are made along the way.
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This is the Mindless Sea podcast. Hello, everyone. This is your host, Jesse Fries. Welcome to the 23rd February February. This is episode number 2 of the mindless sea, little podcast that I'm throwing together. Let's see if the second one is better than the first. I'm sure it can't be worse at least hopefully. Today, I'm gonna be doing things a little bit differently than I did, last time. Today, I'm gonna be focusing more on, like, an aspect of popular language that we use today, specifically the the phrase right side of history. I really hate this phrase right side of history. It is something I despise, always have.
As somebody that studies history and has for many, many years, it's just really annoying, for many different reasons, which I will actually get into the today. And then, of course, we will do other things, talk about the value for value, and we will also do some studies and stuff like that, see what is going around the world right now. But let's get into this right side of history, to know if you are actually on the right side of history, you would actually need to know the future and not just the future in 10 years or the future in a 100 years or 200 years or anything. You would just need to know all the future and need to know if in the very end, you were actually on the right side of history.
It's an impossibility. There's no way that you could actually do this. Some people think that you can do this by doing what you see is best for your community But that really isn't enough. There's so many times that this has gone wrong in history just by people doing What they think is right? It's like take revenge. Revenge is, often seen as bad, but when it's you and in the moment you are seeking revenge it can be viewed as a good thing from yourself and from your compatriots and things like that and so revenge, it's a tricky one because some people might say it's not. Some people might say it is. It's one of those things.
You also have to think on if this revenge, if it actually happens, will it just cause even more people to die? So while you were seeking revenge, you actually caused other people to seek revenge on you for what you were seeking revenge on. It's a vicious cycle that goes over and over and over again. So with that, that can I know that's not what people mean by say when they say the right side of history, but in essence, this is what we're all thinking? We're thinking that we're in the right. And so because of that, we get to this idea. Also, some people would say instead of seeking revenge, you should, like, look past or ignore the awful things that were done to you or to your community, but sometimes would that also be best?
Take, the American descendants of slavery ADAS or African Americans Would it be better for them? I I'm a white guy. So I I'm not part of this, but would it be better for them to Not focus on their slave past. I know I've heard a lot of different white people and other people say that that would be best But I think it'd be almost impossible to know if it actually would be best because remembering can actually help you in the future. So if you just kinda push that away and don't try to get that somewhat resolved, it could cause some issues. Also, would it be better off to have reparations or not to have reparations?
If you have reparations in say a 100 years, will your community and your descendants actually be better off for the reparations that you got, that your generation got? Or would this have to be like a reparations throughout history ongoing indefinitely? It's this sort of thing. What would be best? Would they be better off or not? Also with reparations, might it cause inflation to the point where it wipes out the actual reparations? So, basically, you get a lump of money and that money goes into the economy, and that's a big massive amount of money in the economy that will just cause inflation.
Think about all the handouts that we got during the COVID periods of time. That has caused the inflation that we are seeing today. So if you just print money or something just to give somebody, will that actually help or hurt that same group of person in the long term? It's it's hard to say. It's almost impossible. It's impossible to know if which which side of that would actually be the right side of history. It is an impossibility to know. Not only that, you get a whole bunch of money and would all that money would it actually stay in the African American community or would it go out to businesses ran by rich white guys? I don't think that would be really what the intent of it would be, but I could see that happening. I really could. It happens pretty much with everything.
It all just goes towards the rich, the businesses, and everything like that. You want a new TV? That's gonna go to the company that sold you the TV. So it's really hard to know if anything in that would be the right side of history. All we can do is live our best life and keep going. Along another thing with different races is the idea of segregation. Is it good? Is it bad? I know Supreme Court decisions, like the Brown v Board of Education, they have said that it's bad, that you cannot have separate but equal. I know all this is possible but then in modern days, more recent days, the 21st century, people have come up with the idea that maybe we should segregate so that blacks could be with blacks, white can be with whites. Well, they never actually say that whites can be with whites. I'm not sure if they ever want whites to be alone, but having safe spaces for different smaller minorities and everything like that they view as this good thing, but to me that's just a segregation as well. If you think segregation is good, okay.
If you don't, I personally don't, but if you don't, then you don't, and you just have to live with each other. With the segregation, you have to think about our communities bedded off if they interact with other communities or would it be better to basically say take Oklahoma, give it all back to the Indians, the Native Americans, say Montana. Move every African American to Montana and move all the white people out would so they would have their own country or own state that nobody would be it'd be segregated because it's in that state That's where everybody lives would that actually make any sense It's this whole idea. I know I'm extrapolating way too far on this, but it's just something that came up in my thought process and I don't really think any of those things would be a good idea, of course, but it's the idea of whether to segregate or not to segregate, which is the right side of history, which is what I'm trying to get to.
And then from there, you can also take that into gender, like, for education. Should we separate boys and girls in education? Some people believe that this helps both sexes, for boys and girls that there's no distraction by the opposite sex. Boys aren't being crazy around girls so girls can concentrate Boys can just do whatever they want without having to feel like they they have to impress a girl, things like that. So would it be better to do one way or the other? Is there a right side of history on that one, or should they all commingle? What would be the best idea? Should it be what we have now where you can get to choose?
It's hard to say. And then from there, you can also get to Northern Ireland. Is Northern Ireland better off now that they have decided to end the hostilities with the UK? Is it better that Northern Ireland is part of the UK, or is it better if it was not part of the UK, if it was part of Ireland? This is a question that nobody the different sides agree on. Ireland itself, the country gained independence in 1921, But Northern Ireland was left for the UK United Kingdom. So the Northern Ireland about 6 counties, went to the UK because the majority of the people there were Protestant, and they sided more with the British because, well, a lot of them were actually, like, Scots that were actually brought down to Ireland. This is the Scotch Irish.
Scots Irish. And so from there, it's like, is it better to actually keep going and seek revenge like a lot of these Northern Ireland's, Irish people did, like the IRA or anything like that? Is it better to keep fighting until you get everything you want exactly like you want it? Or is it better to have a imperfect system, which is the Northern Ireland issue right now? It's an imperfect system, Especially with the EU and everything like that trying to figure out borders and tariffs and this and that Is it worth that to have an imperfect system or would you rather keep fighting?
I think you could even talk about Palestine and Israel right now with this. Is it better to have everything you want, or is it better to have an imperfect system? Another thing when it comes to right side of history is that we never know what will cause issues in the future. We always think as a species that we are so smart that we are smarter than all of our forefathers and mothers and so there's, nothing that we can do, that would be as stupid as people in the past. But this is always proven to be false. Think of cocaine. Back in the 18th 1800, cocaine was thought to be a non addictive alternative to heroin because heroin was a horrible, horrible drug as we know it caused many many issues many people died And many people actually thought cocaine would actually be a good alternative. This is where we get Coca Cola from because coke had coke in it and because it because a lot of people thought it was better than heroin.
Whether or not I I've never taken either, but, you know, maybe it is. I don't know. All I know is it causes problems no matter what. It is addictive, very addictive, just like heroin, but we didn't know any better. And so because of that, we never know what the right side of history is because we the humans back then, our forefathers thought that they knew what they were doing. Apparently, they didn't. Another aspect of this is, eugenics. Eugenics to me is a classic of this. If you don't know what Eugenics is, it's basically the idea that you can use genes to determine if somebody will be criminal or not. So there's a criminal gene, a mental illness gene, things like that. And if you can actually change the genes or get rid of those genes from the human race, then we will no longer have criminals or mentally ill or anything like that.
Where this comes from was it was really a twisting of Charles Darwin's thoughts. Charles Darwin, he came up, in his book, the origin of species. He came up with the idea of evolution that the strongest will survive the strongest of the fittest Survival of the fittest things like that. This is what Darwin truly believed and That's fine. A evolution to me is settled science. It's just what is But as with anything else, things you take an idea and then that idea can be put towards many different areas. One of these was actually started by his cousin. It was Eugenics, of course is what I'm talking about and his cousin Charles Darwin's cousin founded the Eugenics Movement. His name was Sir Francis Galton and He started Eugenics basically the idea of Eugenics was taking Darwinian thought and then extrapolating that to the human species so we can figure out who is the strongest, who is the best, things like that.
This really went down the rabbit hole, like, horrendously, which I will cover. But it is using that Darwinian thought to figure out, that humans can just keep bettering themselves and so on and so forth. One of the people that actually took this up is actually a rather famous American. At least his last name is famous and he is famous himself. His name was John Harvey Kellogg He was a doctor and he actually invented cereal He's quite an interesting guy There's a movie about him Road to Wellville is what it's called. It's, from the 1990s It has Anthony Hopkin and, John Cusack.
It is a really good mute movie. Maybe not John Cusack. Am I thinking of a different one? I I can't remember right now. But anyways, you should check it out. It's a funny story about this funny guy, John Harvey Kellogg. He was a doctor. He set up a place in Battle Creek, Michigan to help people. He believed that you shouldn't have sex, you should eat boring food. And if you do all these things, you can live forever. He also believed in yogurt enemas. He had a daily one. And apparently, he never had sex with his wife of, like, 40, 50 years. So he was an interesting guy. He was actually very famous during his life.
People went to him all the time to get better. And as I said, he actually invented cereal. And, one of the guys that also helped push the serial movement, a guy by the name of Post, he actually stole a recipe from the Kellogg's, while it was this hospital sort of thing. Stole a recipe from that because John Harvey Kellogg did not want to sell it or anywhere. He didn't wanna make a profit off the cereal. And so Post took it, and he came up with Grape Nuts from that recipe. He added some sugar, which Kellogg was against. But, yeah, it's a funny story, really.
But then, John Harvey Kellogg's brother, he went on and formed the Kellogg breakfast cereal company, invented cornflakes, and, there you go. So the crazy guy was just the brother of the guy that that pushed Kellogg's cornflakes But anyways, so back to John Harvey Kellogg, but he started this foundation. It was called the Race Betterment Foundation, and it even had a pedigree registry, so you could actually put your pedigree just like a dog. You could put your pedigree into a registry so people could actually mix and match and get the perfect, thing that you would want.
With this, you would be able to choose who to marry, who not to marry, things like that so that your genes can go on, and better themselves. But with Eugenics things really start to take a nasty turn. It's like, in California, they actually forcibly sterilized about 20,000 mentally ill people for about 70 years from 19 0 9 to 1979. They were just sterilizing mentally ill people because they thought if you sterilize them then they cannot reproduce and pass on those genes. And so because of that, they thought this was a grand idea. And so they just sterilized a whole bunch of people. Not only that, but 33 other states or 33 states maybe with California included allowed for the forced sterilization of those they deem fit. This could be the criminal. This could be the mentally ill. This could be based off race. This could be based off anything.
And it really was a massive problem. And so you get eugenics, you know, this forced sterilization. You get people like Margaret Sanger. She founded Planned Parenthood. And really she was for the idea of getting rid of the poor or helping the poor out things like that, helping out different races by limiting the amount of people that were reproduced. She actually wrote, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over fertility of the mentally and physically defective. These were her own words. She thought it was best just to get rid of all these types of people, mentally and physically defective.
Then you have, like, the ultimate. Right? The ultimate is Hitler. Hitler was a grand had a grand idea of eugenics. He he believed in it. Well, you should be able to know that because he hated the Jews, which was based off of only genes. It's he's thought that they were inferior race and that they should be wiped off the planet. But he thought this about blacks. He thought this about everybody. It wasn't just the Jews. He really believed that the Aryan race was the master race and things like that, and Hitler and the whole Nazi movement truly believed in that.
And this is what eugenics gets us. But you see, the thing is is that all these people that were doing eugenics to bring this all back, what they were doing, they were doing because they thought they were on the right side of history, because they wanted to better the human race. They wanted to better life for everyone. So if you think you are on the right side of history, does not mean you are on the right side of history. I know this is an extreme case, eugenics, but every case, small or big, is the same thing. There is no right side of history. There's just history. That's all it is.
Societies are not a seamless line of progression of betterment. This is not what society is. Society is a ebb and flow between conservative and liberal, between wacko and sane, between all sorts of different things. It's never a seamless line of progression. There are always missteps along the way, like thinking cocaine is non addictive, things like this, right? There is always missteps. You always make mistakes. Everybody does. We're human. So just remember that just because you think you are on the right side of history, does not mean you are on the right side of history.
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So please send me what you can. Money is great. I love money. So please send that. Otherwise, you can help just produce the show with images, ideas for topics, and things like that. So just go to podcast.mindlessc.com, and, you can help me out. Okay. Now to what's going on around the world right now. Just some crazy things that I've seen. One of the top ones was that apparently, there's a top Canadian surgeon who revealed in a group of like minded surgeons all the issues that can actually come out from sex change operations. So if you are thinking of doing that for yourself, just make sure you get all the information that you can. It looks to be some of it quite scary on what can actually happen, necrotic tissues, things like that. So So just make sure that you do have done all the research and not just have glossed over it.
On the funnier side, there's, for some reason, there was this study, that was done. It was even put into a peer reviewed journal. And, basically, what it was is that there was this picture is AI generated of a rat with a giant penis, like giant. It is huge if you see this. It's like taller than it. So it's rather funny. But, yeah, this actually got into a peer reviewed study. You would think that people would actually look at that and realize something is wrong, but apparently, they didn't. So, yeah, if you wanna get a chuckle, just check that out. Look for AI generated rat penis, and, man, that thing is big.
As For a study of the day, there's one apparently, I'm not sure if you can believe this or not, but apparently men and women's brains do actually work differently. Scientists discovered this. Now scientists couldn't do this on their own. They actually had to have AI help them, do this because there's very little difference, but there is actual difference in there. Some people now are arguing whether or not that's caused by, genetics or if it if it's actual natural or if it's based by society or whatever. It's hard to say exactly what it is, but they're trying to figure that out. But, yes, men's and women's brains do work differently.
And so this can kind of show, those people that want them to think the same that it's just not possible. We actually think differently. In other news, apparently, Jamie JPMorgan and other Wall Street giants are shifting away from climate initiatives. They're starting to more focus on actual investing and not just on future investing on certain things like climate change or things like that. Not really sure if that's good or not, but it is a shift, kinda like what the Biden administration now is thinking about changing the rules for EVs to where you they're not pushing as hard to get everybody into EV right now, because society just doesn't seem to be wanting EVs anymore for at this moment.
So there's that as well. Things are slowly changing as I and as I said earlier, is that, the red side of history? It might be or it might not be. We don't know. There's no way to know. And then on to, this idea of, pet bereavement, leave. Apparently, a lot of workplaces are going to towards pet bereavement. So, basically, if your pet dies, your dog dies, your cat dies, you might get some time off. I think that I Could see how that could be helped. Some people get really attached to pets and everything like that. I don't do pets myself. I travel too much I think it would just be mean to the animal to do that. So I don't have pets. But, for those who do, I could understand that, especially if they really, really get attached to it. But so that's it for the mindless seat today. I hope you have enjoyed this podcast.
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Introduction to the topic of the phrase 'right side of history'
Exploring the impossibility of knowing the future and being on the right side of history
Discussing the complexities of revenge and its consequences
Examining the idea of segregation and its implications
Considering the debate on segregating boys and girls in education
Analyzing the Northern Ireland issue and the question of remaining part of the UK or joining Ireland
Highlighting the fallibility of human knowledge and the dangers of eugenics
Emphasizing that there is no right side of history and that societies experience ebb and flow